MVP Scope Mounts

Discussion in 'Mossberg MVP Forum' started by Dave, Mar 26, 2012.

  1. Dave New Member

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    I have a new rifle enroute via Buds. The Mossberg site advises W
    eaver style bases for scope mounting. The Weaver site doesn't list the MVP among the many variations of mounts. My scope has a 1" tube and 50mm objective lens which will require a high rise mount. If someone has a similar setup I'd appreciate it if you'd share the info. on what mounts are applicable. I intend to leave the scope in place once mounted. I figure the less moving parts the better.
  2. RRatedArmory FFL Dealer

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    I used Leupold 1" High QRW mounts for my 50mm scope. I don't plan on removing my scope, Im just picky about the way rings look and I like the way these look, and they are reasonably priced. They are a picitiny type mount, and I used the midway usa scope ring chart to figure out I needed high mounts. Everything fits real nice
  3. Dave New Member

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    Hey , Thanks alot . I appreciate the help. I didn't see the scope ring chart when I looked earlier. Mossberg returned my call this afternoon and said we should use the same mounts as the Mossberg 100 ATR at the base in case that might help someone on down the line. It seems like I remember reading a bit about weaver and picitiny rails being a slight bit different in width where one clamp is compatable for both and one is not. Obviously you nailed it. Thanks again. Happy hunting!
  4. The_Pooze KIDS, Kids, kids................

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    I can tell people what not to use. Weaver Grand Slam's in medium height with a scope objective diameter of 40mm or greater. These rings leave a p-hair of space between the objective and barrel. You can literally slide a hair between the scope and the barrel but not a single piece of notebook paper. Not to mention that these rings are windage adjustable and without alignment dowels there is no way to really properly align them.
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  5. Dave New Member

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  6. Dave New Member

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    Point well taken. I'll add I went with the xtra high Weaver Six Screw Skeletonized Tactical Rings. All would have been perfect there except the longitudinal demension of the ring mounts in relation to being pararell to the reciever leave a small amount of ring mount(1/8") hanging over at each end of the base mounts when properly aligned by the boss pins in the slots of the Mossberg Factory installed Weaver Style base mounts. I used them anyway and they work fine...jus sayin. On a more positive note, I checked out one of the Swift Premier 8-32x w/50mm Obj.Scopes for punching paper at 200 yards and am really pleased with the quality of the scope for the money(229.00 new). Actually , at any price the scope does exactly what I bought it for(1 MOA Target Shooting @ 200yds). I was really surprised. Technolgy has come so far you don't have to break the bank just to get a decent optic. You just have to know which one to get. I had a brain fart with the parallax adjustment and the customer rep. told me no prob just send it back we'll get it right. Come to find out the problem was me anyway making the whole thing unnecessary(parallax adj. varies w/ the individuals eyes).
  7. MechTech Moderator/ Damn Yankee

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    I completely agree with you! I have always put my money in good solid glass like a Leupold VX II, VX3 or a Nikon Monarch and have been really pleased with their performance. In the last several years I have seen lesser optics manufactures offer similar quality, features and value as the big brand name optics at a more affordable price. So now there are a lot of quality scope options.
  8. LtDan Member

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    What I have been hearing is that the Mossberg uses the sames spacing as a Remington 700 short action, I'll let you know about that when my MVP gets here Friday....... I order the one piece picatinny rail mount from Midway.
  9. The_Pooze KIDS, Kids, kids................

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    Got rid of my Weaver Grand Slams, went with Redfield medium height rings for 15.00. Way better product for this application. Solid quality/value for the price. Leaves about a 1/16" space between objective and barrel. (see posted picture in MVP pic section) Holds the Nikon well. Also Weaver's modular level system work better for leveling on the MVP action in comparison to the Wheeler Engineering system. (I have both) Top it all off with a quick boresight from the Leupold boresight system. Ready for some range time next weekend, weather permitting.
  10. The_Pooze KIDS, Kids, kids................

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    Dave,

    Midway has some decent reviews in regards to the Swift brand of optics. How clear is the sight picture when cranked up past 20x? Is there anything you don't like about the scope? Is this the optic that is on your MVP? What other scopes/firearm combinations have you run in the past? Just trying to gain more prospective.
  11. Dave New Member

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    Sorry it took so long to reply... the tails been waggin the dog. I'll answer in the same order as above. In ref. to the greater than 20 x issue I saw those reviews posted all over the place. The clarity is perfect in perfect conditions, but to be fair; I expect this would be the case of any high power magnifcation. A perfect sight picture... then the heat rises and you experience mirage(you can actually estimate wind speed with the shape of mirage), a cloud rolls over and dims the light, as a matter of fact we recently had a woods fire in our region I didn't take into consideration because the smoke was not noticible to the naked eye on a closed course at 200 yards. That one caused me some egg on my face after blaming the scope. Have you noticed how relatively rare a high mag varible x scope is? I think people might just be a little too quick to blame the scope and they get a bad rap(They're not for moving targets anyway). I think manufacturers in turn avoid the stigma when all it takes is a few loose cannons on the internet to trash a good thing. Dislikes... easy one... nothing to dislike and yep it's on the MVP. Next... while I'm being honest and fair I'll admit I've never owned a "High End Scope" but I've been fortunate enough to look through a few and yes sir money truely is a wonderful thing. Then again, I didn't notice any ultra high mag vari x scopes on the Rolex shelf. I reacon they didn't get there by not playin it safe(yea,yea double neg.). As for the shootin irons in my safe, right now after 52 years of trial and error, and keeping it narrowed down to long guns w/ scopes that'll be my Browning (BAR).270 w/ 3-9x, a Rem. Mod. 700 in 300 Win. Mag. w/ 4-12x, and the newest member of the family the MVP .5.56 w/ the 8-32x just for paper punching(Not into dog shootin but each to his own... no prob here).
  12. The_Pooze KIDS, Kids, kids................

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    Thanks for the insight. I'm looking at some good "value " scopes as well. I'm not made of money yet but I did just plant a tree that may grow me some. (Started my own business.) Looking into 120-200 dollar range. There may be a swift optic in there. I'll keep you posted.
  13. LtDan Member

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    Last month at Sportsman Warehouse here in NCal they had Vortex 4-16 x 50 on sale for $99.99. I bought one and put it on my 24" bull barreled AR 15 it seems to be a good scope. The only thing I dislike is it not having target/varmet adjusting knobs, but for the money it works great. I also have a Millett TRS1 4-16 x50 Mildot with illuminated reticle now that's a better scope. That one sits on my 24" bull barreled AR10.....
  14. The_Pooze KIDS, Kids, kids................

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    LTD,

    I was looking at the TRS-1 as a possible MVP optic. Can you give us some more feedback on that scope. Likes, Dislikes, Performance, Build Quality, etc , etc. ? Thanks.
  15. LtDan Member

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    I really like that scope. I have been to the range only once with it but it's very clear, I like the target style adjusters for elv and win. It works really well. I wish I could afford another for my MVP, which by the way , will be in my hands at 1:00 PM tomorrow....10 days is a long time.
  16. DaveMVP New Member

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    How did that work out? I'm looking for a Picatinny mount for mine.
  17. LtDan Member

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    It works great, lots of back and forth adjustment. I ordered it from Midway and they sent me 2 of them and charged me for 2 of them, dang it. The model I got was the Weaver Model 99500 multi slot for a Rem 700 S/A 3 of the four holes line up. As I have a mill I just milled the correct hole in th ecorrect spot and now all 4 holes are working. There is a small lip on the mount that has to be removed as the chamber opening on the remy must be longer than the MVP. If you want I'll mill it and so it'll fit for the money I have into it shipped 37.00

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  18. DaveMVP New Member

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    Thanks, but I need two, so I have to order anyway. I just emailed Mossberg to see if anyone is making anything yet that doesn’t need mods.
  19. DaveMVP New Member

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    I had the following email conversation with EGW about bases. They were quick to respond to my emails.
    I also emailed Mossberg, but they have not responded.
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    I want to switch my Remington 700 308 VLS, and Mossberg MVP .223 over to Picatinny Bases for scope mounting.

    Do you have anything for the Mossberg MVP yet?

    Thanks,

    Dave

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    Dave,
    I believe that the Mossberg ATR has the same receiver. If you can get the spacing between the screws I could confirm this for you.
    Best regards,
    Jim
    Staff
    Evolution Gun Works, Inc.
    (215) 538-1012
    Visit Us Online: www.egwguns.com

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    Thanks Jim,

    With the first hole at the barrel end of the receiver being 0,

    The 2nd hole is .861

    The 3rd is 3.890

    The 4th is 4.500
    Dave

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    Dave,
    I am sorry to say that the hole spacing does not match up, it’s not even close. I did some research and the mount that we make is only for their long action calibers. We will have to see if Mossberg will give us a print to use to produce a new mount. Sorry we can’t help you with that at this time.
    Best regards,
    Jim
    Staff
    Evolution Gun Works, Inc.
    (215) 538-1012
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  20. DaveMVP New Member

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    Well, I haven’t had much luck in finding a picatinny rail. But I did finally get an email back from Mossberg.

    Because he gave me the part numbers for the two price scope mount I don’t think he understood that I want a one piece Picatinny rail. The phone number he gave me is for Weaver. I don’t see on their website that they make any Picatinny bases.
    However, the 100-ATR Night Train 308 comes with a Picatinny rail. So if what he says is true; it should fit. (Unless they are using the EGW long action on a short action) If I can find the time during the day I guess I will have to call Mossberg and see if I can get one, or if they will tell me who is making it.

    From Mossberg....

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